[ i've never seen all of fight club, only scenes here and there.
she looks at the poster before she follows jonas in. she has no idea what to expect, and what she's expecting is only half of what fight club is about. ]
For its entertainment value, or is it for how it speaks to you?
[ as i described to our curfew group earlier: it's extremely overhype but still a decent movie. but it's fine. jonas has very teenage boy taste as he heads into the theater with lambda in tow, walking all the way up the steps to the back row. ]
A little of both, if I'm honest. [ there's a pause. ] But don't judge me for that. It's...something I've thought about on and off in the times I've watched it.
[ the back row... he really do be teenage boy. Lambda has very little frame of reference for best seating in a movie theater, so jonas really is the leader this threas. ]
If it speaks to you, it speaks to you. It's not as if everyone expects Swan Lake to be something that speaks to me.
[ sometimes, a piece of art or fiction can just say things for you better. ]
[ he's the teenage boy who sits in the back row and if there's nobody in front of him he puts his toes on the edge of the seat in front of him. this is just what lambda has to deal with as he glances at the shadow audience that's filing in. ]
Swan Lake like...the ballet? Really? [ he says as someone who a.) did not really expect that and b.) doesn't entirely know the story of swan lake anyway. ] Am I allowed to ask why?
[ it's fine. she likes things elegant, but you don't have to be considerate to be elegant. he's not bothering her, so he can do these things.
whenever lambda talks about ballet, she becomes much more lively. a shine and sparkle comes to her eyes, and her voice becomes warmer.
she will talk about ballet for free! ]
There's something so elegant and beautiful about dance but ballet especially. The movement and the emotion and the strength you have to be able to pull off every position.... and Odette's story is one that resonates with me.
[ how similar she is to odette is questionable, but the emotions resonate. ]
[ oh boy. well, he did ask, so he guesses this is just how this will go now. ]
I've never actually seen one before, so I'll have to take your word for it. I'm not too familiar with the story either. I think there was, like, a movie that was supposed to be based off of it but that's probably not right.
but he really got her on one of the few subjects she won't be indifferent or cold about. the contrast between swan lake and fight club is so funny. she is happy to tell this story. ]
Odette was a girl who was turned into a swan by a spell, and she could only turn back into a human at night by a certain lake. As a swan, she's hunted by a prince, but he chases her until he sees her transform back into a human. Enamored by her beauty, he asks how to break the spell.
For the curse to be broken, someone must swear undying love to her. Of course, the sorcerer who cursed her finds out and intervenes. When the prince holds a ball, the sorcerer makes his daughter look like Odette, and the prince is fooled by it.
He confesses his love to the wrong girl, and Odette witnesses it. Betrayed, intentional or not, she dies because of it.
[ i'm saying he has definitely heard of the swan princess because that's the only reason he'd recognize the name odette. anyway it's like. sort of cute? to watch her be excited to tell this story.
which is funny because this story is extremely not cute, but he keeps an elbow on an armrest and props his head up to listen to her explain. ]
...sort of feels like the whole thing could've been avoided if the prince actually talked to her more instead of just thinking about what she looked like, but maybe that's just me. [ that is a betrayal though, wow. ]
Why are there multiple stories about girls dying because some dude falls in love with the wrong girl? [ not the point. ] But it sounds kind of sad. Like...she was cursed for no reason and had to adjust to life with this curse and she was doing that just fine until someone came along and started doing stuff to terrorize her. And then decided to only help her when he saw something he wanted and she's still the one who paid the price when it wasn't even her idea.
Oh, Jonas, there's hope for you yet. It's not just you. I don't care for the prince in this story.
[ his takeaways are pretty on point. sometimes, a modern teenage boy can be good. is it love, if the person only hones in on appearances? beauty is important, but it's what beauty is to someone that makes a distinction. ]
He chose to die with her in the end, but it was his fault in the first place.
[ .... ]
If you think about what love could do for her, it's something that can apply to many.
[ there's a slight huff at that. sometimes a modern teenage boy has opinions on these things that just so happen to line up. ]
Doesn't sound like there's much likable about the guy, so I can't blame you. I'm sure it's supposed to be, like, noble or romantic that he chose to die with her but when you think about the part where she could have lived if he hadn't been involved...it was more inevitable. [ perhaps the prince should have died, period.
but he's quiet, watching the shadow audience fill into the theater as he mulls over that. ]
Love, if it was actually real, probably could've set her free. It could have been something to give her a better life and a better chance of doing something else. And instead, somebody else's idea of love took away everything. She really didn't even get a choice. I wouldn't say you're wrong about that though. It's something that can apply to...a lot of people.
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she looks at the poster before she follows jonas in. she has no idea what to expect, and what she's expecting is only half of what fight club is about. ]
For its entertainment value, or is it for how it speaks to you?
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A little of both, if I'm honest. [ there's a pause. ] But don't judge me for that. It's...something I've thought about on and off in the times I've watched it.
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If it speaks to you, it speaks to you. It's not as if everyone expects Swan Lake to be something that speaks to me.
[ sometimes, a piece of art or fiction can just say things for you better. ]
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Swan Lake like...the ballet? Really? [ he says as someone who a.) did not really expect that and b.) doesn't entirely know the story of swan lake anyway. ] Am I allowed to ask why?
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whenever lambda talks about ballet, she becomes much more lively. a shine and sparkle comes to her eyes, and her voice becomes warmer.
she will talk about ballet for free! ]
There's something so elegant and beautiful about dance but ballet especially. The movement and the emotion and the strength you have to be able to pull off every position.... and Odette's story is one that resonates with me.
[ how similar she is to odette is questionable, but the emotions resonate. ]
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I've never actually seen one before, so I'll have to take your word for it. I'm not too familiar with the story either. I think there was, like, a movie that was supposed to be based off of it but that's probably not right.
[ so. he tilts his head. ]
What's Odette's story?
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[ makes jonas suffer the swan princess (no).
but he really got her on one of the few subjects she won't be indifferent or cold about. the contrast between swan lake and fight club is so funny. she is happy to tell this story. ]
Odette was a girl who was turned into a swan by a spell, and she could only turn back into a human at night by a certain lake. As a swan, she's hunted by a prince, but he chases her until he sees her transform back into a human. Enamored by her beauty, he asks how to break the spell.
For the curse to be broken, someone must swear undying love to her. Of course, the sorcerer who cursed her finds out and intervenes. When the prince holds a ball, the sorcerer makes his daughter look like Odette, and the prince is fooled by it.
He confesses his love to the wrong girl, and Odette witnesses it. Betrayed, intentional or not, she dies because of it.
[ yaaaaay. ]
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which is funny because this story is extremely not cute, but he keeps an elbow on an armrest and props his head up to listen to her explain. ]
...sort of feels like the whole thing could've been avoided if the prince actually talked to her more instead of just thinking about what she looked like, but maybe that's just me. [ that is a betrayal though, wow. ]
Why are there multiple stories about girls dying because some dude falls in love with the wrong girl? [ not the point. ] But it sounds kind of sad. Like...she was cursed for no reason and had to adjust to life with this curse and she was doing that just fine until someone came along and started doing stuff to terrorize her. And then decided to only help her when he saw something he wanted and she's still the one who paid the price when it wasn't even her idea.
[ ... ]
You said it resonates with you though?
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Oh, Jonas, there's hope for you yet. It's not just you. I don't care for the prince in this story.
[ his takeaways are pretty on point. sometimes, a modern teenage boy can be good. is it love, if the person only hones in on appearances? beauty is important, but it's what beauty is to someone that makes a distinction. ]
He chose to die with her in the end, but it was his fault in the first place.
[ .... ]
If you think about what love could do for her, it's something that can apply to many.
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Doesn't sound like there's much likable about the guy, so I can't blame you. I'm sure it's supposed to be, like, noble or romantic that he chose to die with her but when you think about the part where she could have lived if he hadn't been involved...it was more inevitable. [ perhaps the prince should have died, period.
but he's quiet, watching the shadow audience fill into the theater as he mulls over that. ]
Love, if it was actually real, probably could've set her free. It could have been something to give her a better life and a better chance of doing something else. And instead, somebody else's idea of love took away everything. She really didn't even get a choice. I wouldn't say you're wrong about that though. It's something that can apply to...a lot of people.